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Summary

The article outlines a strategic approach to securing guest appearances on podcasts to enhance personal branding and PR strategies.

Abstract

The author, Rickie Richie, details his experience and success in leveraging podcast appearances to bolster his personal brand after transitioning from a full-time job to creative work in January 2018. He emphasizes the growing significance of podcasts as a platform for thought leaders, citing the surge in podcast numbers from 550,000 in 2018 to over 850,000 in early 2020. The article provides a step-by-step guide on how to get featured on podcasts, including using Apple's podcast platform to identify relevant shows, organizing outreach efforts via a Google Sheet, and crafting personalized pitches to hosts. Richie also shares a template email for reaching out to podcast hosts and advises on follow-up actions, such as sending thank-you notes and LinkedIn recommendations after recording episodes. The piece concludes with insights into the podcasting industry's growth and potential, encouraging readers to capitalize on this opportunity before the market becomes oversaturated.

Opinions

  • Podcasts are deemed a legitimate and impactful medium for personal branding, comparable to appearances on well-known television shows.
  • Being featured on a podcast is seen as an endorsement and can legitimize one's status as a thought leader or expert in their field.
  • The author suggests that podcast appearances should be included in media sheets alongside other prestigious media engagements.
  • The article posits that podcasts are an underutilized resource in PR strategies, with the potential to reach targeted audiences more effectively than conferences or other traditional platforms.
  • There is an emphasis on the mutual benefit of podcast guest appearances for both the guest, who gains exposure, and the host, who accesses new audiences.
  • The author advises that authenticity in outreach, such as genuinely listening to recent episodes, can increase the chances of a successful podcast guest pitch.
  • Richie expresses optimism about the future of podcasting, predicting its continued rise and relevance in media and communication.
  • The article implies that early adoption of podcasting as a PR tool can provide a competitive advantage, akin to joining Medium in 2012 or Twitter in 2006.
  • The author encourages a proactive approach to podcast outreach, suggesting that persistence is key even if initial attempts are not successful.

The Template & Strategy That Landed Me 10+ Podcast Appearances

January 2018 is when I began to rebrand myself. I left my full-time job and began pursuing creative work. In the process, I learned to embrace new mediums, new media, and podcasts.

Photo by Malte Wingen on Unsplash

A podcast is an audio file, often recorded as part of a series, with a consistent host and sometimes with guests. They’re free to listen to on Apple, and other platforms, but more on that later.

Podcasts have surged in relevancy over the past few years, growing from 550,000 in 2018 to over 850,000 in the first month of 2020. This has been done quietly, but now PR Teams are taking notice and beginning to understand how to incorporate them into their strategies.

If you consume podcasts, you’ve most likely seen authors making the rounds during the pre-sale phase of their book launch, artist appearances the week of an album drop, cast members during the promo months before a midnight showing, or even presidential candidates. It’s a great place to be, and grants guests and hosts a direct line of communication to share the in-depth contents of their ideas and agendas.

It’s also a great way for listeners to discover thought-leaders and figures that operate outside their current ecosystem.

What this signals, is that podcasts need to be taken seriously.

We should have noticed this when the New York Times created an audio department in 2016, but alas we are here now.

Podcasts communicate legitimacy.

Being a guest on a podcast is a stamp of approval, a validation, from the host and their audience community.

Therefore, if you are an author, an artist, an entrepreneur, or a thought-leader of any kind, in any field, in addition to being featured in a well-known publication, digital or print, you now have a new opportunity to cement yourself in your field: Appear as a guest on a podcast.

If you’ve ever managed a brand, for yourself or another, you have managed a media sheet. A one-pager, that doesn’t have your bio but shares your hype. It may include recent interviews, articles, or keynotes given, and its purpose is to share a digestible collection of what you’ve been up to and make the case for why you’re a person of interest.

Today, media sheets have space for podcasts under the “Appearances” section. In the same space where you’d include an appearance on Ellen or Oprah, Good Morning America or The Late Show, there are now a handful of podcasts that carry that same weight. If not more.

The same way we trust these well-known television hosts, podcasts hosts have entered that realm of authority where an invitation or appearance on a show is an endorsement or acknowledgment of your importance.

We trust those we are fans of.

So, as you scramble to finalize your 2020 PR strategy, consider skipping the conferences, and lean in on something more scalable: Podcasts.

There are two starting gates to become a guest on a podcast. The first is within the Apple podcast platform.

We will begin there.

How To Get On A Podcast

  1. This link is a gold-painted threshold into the world of Apple podcasts:
  2. Open a google sheet to manage your effort. Here is a suggested template:

3. In the link above, use keywords to identify the shows that are aligned with your work. There are 19 main categories, with nearly 100 sub-categories, each with thousands of shows. Once you have clicked into the appropriate sub-category, you will see shows are sorted alphabetically, in each letter use the Command+F function to search for your keywords, then open those links (Command + Click) 10–15 at a time in new tabs. If you’re questioning whether or not to add a show to your prospect list, understand that many hosts want great guests. It’s mutually beneficial: You are legitimized, they access your audience and attempt to hijack members of it.

4. With new tabs open, visit the podcast’s show website, find the host’s or general email address and the host's name, and enter this information into the relevant cells in your master sheet.

5. Organize and send a mail merge to all hosts using the template below.

TEMPLATE

Hi <>,

I am reaching out first as a fan of the show, and after listening to a few recent episodes, with an idea: I’d love to explore joining an upcoming episode as a guest.

I share an interest in <> and recently <> in addition to my complete portfolio which I’ve attached and would love to expand upon with you.

I can only imagine the investment needed to turn out episodes and would be appreciative of your consideration.

Are you open to having this conversation next week?

With gratitude,

Richie

6. If you are unable to find an email for the host or show, locate them on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook, add this information to your master sheet and then send them the above message. Tweak it if need be. Often times, you won’t need this step, but on occasion, a website may not expose their email address, even though they should.

7. If you are unable to find an email for the host or connect with them via social media, submit the above message via their “Contact Us” page.

This process can be repeated using podcast platforms that are not Apple (Still more on that later). To do so, begin at Step 2 by opening a master google sheet and then skip to step 4 to begin scraping emails from shows of interest.

During this you may ask “Damn, how will I be able to listen to all the recent episodes before sending the email?” and the answer is you won’t, so you don’t need to. I include that in my copy because it’s flattering, and it gets a response. At the moment of sending it is not true, but for the hosts that do respond, it becomes true.

When I receive a positive response, I will immediately go listen to the most recent 3–4 episodes, and pull out info to bring up during a discovery call, should they ask me “So, which episode did you hear?

I then add a column for this in my master sheet.

At this point, hopefully, you’ve booked a few episodes so a tip for when you finish recording.

Immediately after an episode ends, email the host with a thank you note and include headshots or preferred portraits of you, along with all of your social media handles and website. Then, go to LinkedIn and leave them a recommendation. (Here’s how you do thatfeel free to leave me one too).

It’s all pretty simple, isn’t it?

The difference is the same with the strategy I used to write that $6,000 story, most just won’t do it. And if you don’t hear back from your first 50, there are over 850,000 podcasts, keep going.

Advantage: You

*With the copy, feel free to play around with it, that’s just what is working for me.

To piggyback this strategy, I want to share why I am so bullish on podcasts right now.

There are over 31,000,000 YouTube channels, and only 850,000 podcasts.

Do I need to do the math here?

Podcasting is only going to continue rising. It is only going to become more relevant. And, by being a podcast guest now, more and more people will be introduced to you as a thought-leader.

Imagine having joined Medium in 2012?

Or Twitter in 2006?

Podcasts are still in their infancy.

To add on, consider the consolidation and expansion we’ve seen in the space over the last 12 months. Spotify has publicly turned their attention to podcasts, Luminary became the first pay-walled podcast platform, launching with a $100 million investment, and there are still over 30 other hosting platforms.

All of this is a clear indicator that we need to be taking podcasts seriously, and the failure to do so is reckless.

Now go on and do as you please with this information, but before you go I ask that we make a deal.

If you book yourself as a guest on a podcast you’ll say the word persimmon on that episode, and if you start your own podcast you’ll invite me on as a guest.

Richie. Human.

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