MUDDYEDITORS
Muddy Writers Meeting Notes 10/18/21
Better than walking the plank

If I were paid for this job, my boss might have sent me into the brig and docked my sardine intake for a week. The meeting was Monday and I’m turning in my notes Friday. Argh. Methinks the scurvy slowed me down.
I also showed up to the meeting late, so any water cooler banter that happened below escapes me. Did everyone yell ahoy ye or virtually pirate hook shake when they showed up on time?
And how is Anu on time from India but Amy Sea is climbing aboard once the ship had already set sail? I’d tell you but then you’d have to walk the plank.
Anywho —
We talked about making money on MuddyUm. MuddyUmmers were overwhelmingly for making money.
Susan B discussed her history with ad sales and reporting for a newspaper. We filed that in our things Susan has done while on earth file.
She also queried on What is interesting with the Medium model — “Ev is suffering from guilt and shame over Twitter,” Susan B said. “He runs it like a hobby — funded on venture capital — they’re all buddies. He doesn’t want to do advertising. You can’t pay writers on a non-advertising model — it’s not good for writers or editors. Publications keep upping and leaving. Also, he fired all editors for publications. We can do better.”
With bated breath and ajar Zooms, we listened.
“We take staff and artists, comedians, off of medium and we grow it. We start with humor and comedy and put poetry and creative arts.”
We shivered with approval.
In the paper Susan worked on, there was one ad salesman who was the shit, she told us. The ad people were amazingly competent — they get a straight-up commission of what they sell and they kill it.
She went on a while about ad space and we listened.
Hogan Torah had previously brought up Adsense to Susan. https://www.google.com/adsense/start/
The question was asked about what happened with the Huffington Post — lack of interest, lack of desire to go on?
“If we all want to do some collective,” she continued. “Let’s all do our own research on adsense — many places went on AdSense with varying success.”
Varying success has everything to do with leadership. Does it work for everyone? Leadership matters.
We need to have to have a finger on the pulse to what’s going on?
Gets rid of scrapers — itchy.pro
We also need to keep muddy on Medium to continue to collect artists.
Management has to support writers’ integrity — in exploratory mode
What is possible — what do we see out there in the marketplace that has been effective and not effective
How it’s working with newsbreak, Vocal?
FROM THIS POINT ON, EVERYTHING IS RANDO — NO SENTENCE WOULD PASS THE EDITOR FAIRY DISCERNING EYE
Someone brought up farts

Anu has extra questions she will post on slack chat —
Big challenges turning into money — turning challenges into money
How to redirect it from people who are making it to us
Leave muddy as is, as a listing service— summary of what you wrote on real channel and put a link to it
Put in what we read, put in what we love, take out what we hate —
Some day Medium is going to close because you can’t survive on venture capitalism alone
We can self define — no pharmaceutical ads, figure out ads upfront — so we can publish a paid rate — as opposed to those models that are buying tale up from
Scalable growth model — grow that up — as you get traction, you grow that up — you don’t throw money at them
SNL — whole range of comedy — don’t focus on comedy niche
Every comedian has a comedy niche —
The reason we grew is because we just want to help people laugh — also educating people on humor — punching up
Writing good comedy not
Amy Called Paul a baby

Fundraiser successful — Sarah is back from Uranus
Paypal acct with money in it
Paul wants to make masks — needs a transparent 1720 thing — needs 1720 transparent bottle
Susan is going to cape may on Wednesday with Nanci to take David McCarthy to lunch and thank him and ask him about branding
Want to do Zoom telethon for funny? The question was asked.
We may have to do more than one
Susan info gathering on when the best time for zoom telethon
Open Zoom with editors — editors are going to sponsor Zoom telethon in which we do funny things
Read pieces, do standup comedy, jokes
During telethon drop link — in thanks for donations — for editorial emergency fund
Trailer — Nanci and Susan have editing skills — everybody do 10 seconds — 60 seconds of something funny — send videos
What’s that thing you can do a poll — a poll of dates? What’s it called
Western world vs. eastern world
American centralism
Paul told us, “It’s always 3 am somewhere”
Make a trailer — advertise — send link with grid on different times
Zoom telethon
Writing prompt on telethons — funny you YouTubes on telethons
How to generate hate without having Medium ban take you down — talk about pie not guns —
Susan’s wall fell down — when she went and got her candy
You can’t keep edibles around if you have kids or grandkids around
Another THC conversation
in my head “Article about hiding THC in gun cabinet — new job for gun rack — THC bombs — arsenal”
Long ago, before there were editable — pauls fireside chats — we baked brownies and put weed in them — pauls mom story told
Susan needs dog sniff proof container so she can send Anu edibles
More drug recommendations from Susan — take gummies and cut in ⅛
Anu tried pot brownie in Amsterdam — kept buying brownies — couldn't move anything — but brain was razor sharp — we should give her sugar, water, salt — I’m getting nervous thinking these two are also on half a brownie
Ideas for farty silicone pig —
Attach to dog fur
Reminds amy of Ex
Ideas —
Private notes I wish I could take back — sorry I edited —
Don’t edit when you’re feeling righteous indignation
Only edit satire on gummies or when you don’t have a chip on your shoulder
It could be funny — reading as a boy or a girl
Gummy collection — rainbow connection — parody
Newsletter on writers challenge
The day the dogs disappear —
Sara Z showed up — holly catches her up
Paul tries to enter new material from the past into the present
Holly has never heard of The Rainbow Connection
Should we listen to classical music on gummies? Paul says yes. Holly says no. Actually, Holly says HELL no. Classical music makes her scream.
Group keeps trying to generate new material even though we’re supposed to be summarizing meeting for Sara Z.
Sara Z takes out fake muppet eyeballs.
We like kickers because we have farting purple pigs
Sara has a cardboard cutout of a dog because she can’t have dog

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