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Summary

The article presents a series of questions and answers to challenge the perspectives on the Israel-Palestine conflict, highlighting historical events, political decisions, and human rights issues.

Abstract

The article titled "Israel vs Palestine: Which Side Needs Delusion Demolition?" presents a series of questions and answers aimed at challenging the perspectives on the Israel-Palestine conflict. The article highlights historical events, political decisions, and human rights issues, emphasizing the rejection of peace offers by Palestinians, the recent invention of Palestinian national identity, and the genocidal intentions of Hamas. The article also discusses the use of human shields, the denial of aid to Gazans, and the indigenous status of Israelis and Palestinians. The article concludes by questioning which side truly believes in and practices apartheid.

Opinions

  • The article suggests that Palestinians have repeatedly rejected peace offers from Israel, highlighting the need for a "delusion demolition" in their perspective.
  • The article argues that the Palestinian national identity is a recent tactical invention, while Israel's national identity is ancient.
  • The article accuses Hamas of being openly genocidal and targeting Israelis and Jews globally.
  • The article criticizes Palestinian leaders for denying aid to hungry Gazans while living in luxury and managing a gangster kleptocracy.
  • The article suggests that Israelis are indigenous to the land, while many Palestinians are migrants from neighboring Arab countries.
  • The article questions the use of human shields by Palestinians, which is considered a war crime.
  • The article raises the question of which side truly believes in and practices apartheid, suggesting that it may not be Israel, as commonly believed.

Israel vs Palestine: Which Side Needs Delusion Demolition?

Here we downsize the choice to Tik-Tok attention spans

https://mideasttruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12097

This article is the third in a series for time-crunched attention spans and the geographically-challenged who can’t find or name the river or the sea in the Palestine will be free slogan.

Do long wordy articles trigger literary indigestion, but you still want more than analytical fast-food? This structured, sequential answer with visuals to these questions is for you:

  • Two states? Which side said yes and which no — repeatedly?
  • Which side’s national identity is a recent tactical invention?
  • Which side is openly genocidal and planned to use rape, torture and mutilation as weapons of war?
  • Which side views the other’s civilian diaspora as legitimate targets?
  • Which side is indigenous to the land? Has its people inherit refugee status?
  • Where did each side’s refugees come from?
  • Which side believes in apartheid? To answer ask Israel’s Arabs. Don’t ask Arab Jews because there are almost none left to ask.
  • Which side uses human shields?
  • Which side steals humanitarian aid sent to its own people and is a billionaire-led kleptocracy with overseas real estate and private jets?

At first I’ll use some evidence with text only when completely unavoidable.

Two states for two peoples: which side said yes and which said no?

This visual omits the Arab rejection of the 1937 British mandatory government’s Peel Commission partition plan, which gave Palestine’s Jews only 5% of the territory’s land.

Read Palestinian peace activist Bassam Eid to judge which side needs delusion demolition:

It is Israel — and the Zionist Jewish community preceding independence — that consistently offered compromise, dialogue, and a two-state solution. And it is Palestinian demagogues valuing personal power over the good of their people who have rejected these openhanded offers — in favor of endless strife and the desire that the Jewish community be completely destroyed.

But it’s not just Hamas. Palestinian leadership has sold out its people since the beginning of the last century — even as the Jews tried again and again to offer us a state. In 1922, the League of Nations unanimously voted to establish the Palestine Mandate as a Jewish National Home with a map depicting not only Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, but also what is now Jordan, which the British instead set up as a separate Arab monarchy, cutting off more than 75 percent of the original land grant. This vision was drastically diminished by the creation of Jordan, yet the Jewish community saw it as an opportunity for coexistence. The response? A series of Arab attacks terrorizing Jews in Palestine in the 1920s and 30s, which, right under the eyes of British rule, destroyed ancient Jewish communities in places like Hebron.

The history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict regarding a two-state solution reveals a harsh reality: Israel has consistently made genuine efforts toward peace, only to be met with rejection, treachery, and blood-curdling violence by the Palestinian side. This pattern of refusal, particularly epitomized by groups like Hamas, has been the real obstacle to peace. It’s time to acknowledge this truth bluntly. Those who claim to desire peace must confront and challenge the rejectionist elements within Palestinian society, including Hamas. We need to get rid of the Palestinian establishment who have ruled for 15 years without actually representing the Palestinian people. Only then can we hope to forge a path toward a peaceful, two-state future.”

Eid’s diagnosis agrees with Labour politician and union leader Ernest Bevin, Britain’s notoriously anti-Semitic foreign secretary, who said in February 1947 when it handed the Palestine problem to the UN:

““His majesty’s government has come to the conclusion that the conflict in the land is irreconcilable.” Jews and Arabs…each one of these groups has one top priority the thing they care about more than anything. “For the Jews, the top priority is to have a state.”….For the Arabs, the top priority is for the Jews not to have a state in any part of the land.” …..There’s no state of Israel, there are no refugees, there’s no occupation, there are no settlements. All of the things we’re told are the problem. They don’t exist.”— Dr. Einat Wilf, former Labor Party Knesset member on Ehud Barak’s and Ehud Olmert’s negotiating team.

Bevin took seriously and literally what the Arabs said, unlike what Dr. Wilf calls the “westsplainers” who explain away what Palestinians clearly say:

to the credit of Palestinians, for a century, they have made their intentions very clear. That’s why Ernest Bevin was able to know what they wanted. But Westerners don’t want to look it in the eye.”

So let’s look it in the eye. For nearly a generation Corey Gil-Shuster’s Ask Project has posed the question in street interviews with ordinary West Bank Arabs. The answer is nearly unanimous: ALL of pre-1948 Palestine from the river (that 1/2 the protestors can’t name) to the sea is ours — indivisibly:

Israel is no more

It’s free Palestine instead of, not next to Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ocDyVaMt8&t=13s

For 60% of Israelis “their country” is Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Gaza, once home to a Jewish community. So what she’s talking about is a big move her Arab brethren would hardly welcome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP-CRXROorw&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ocDyVaMt8&t=13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ocDyVaMt8&t=13s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ocDyVaMt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ocDyVaMt8

As recently as 2020 45% of Israelis accepted the two state solution. “Palestinians” % of rejectionism? 68–91% depending on location:

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/media/6280

Which side’s national identity is a recent tactical invention and which ancient? Let its leaders tell you:

From the PLO horse’s mouth
Who are Palestinians? Ask their leaders.

Conclusion: Palestine is the only country in history that never existed before its occupation.

Which side is openly genocidal? Targets its opponents globally?

For Hamas every Jew is an Israeli embassy. “We’re not anti-Semitic, just anti-Zionist” is a lie.

Apostate Prophet

Israel is Islamic Waqf (inheritance), just like Al-Andalus (old Islamic Spain):

Apostate Prophet

Mohammed el-Kurd: ‘Normalize the massacres as the status-quo’

at a January 13 pro-Palestinian rally in London.

And lone wolf anti-Semitic terrorists listen:

https://twitter.com/israelsstory
From Paris, slow motion Kristallnacht

And an anti-Semitic Dagestani mob bent on a pogrom too…..

https://twitter.com/israelsstory

Result of the Dagestani Jew hunt: Russian real estate company Avito puts out a YouTube video saying it doesn’t rent to Jews:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avito.ru
Warthog Defense

And a European map of every Jew is an Israeli embassy….

Though the now famous Sydney opera house aria, “gas the Jews” shows how Jews are targeted globally:

Which side engaged in torture, kidnapped babies necrophilic rape and mutilation?

Days after the attacks, as a Muslim woman committed to combating Islamism and a physician, I traveled at my own expense to the Gaza envelope to view the aftermath of Hamas’ butchery. I examined the cadavers of the murdered and defiled; the corpses of the decapitated and immolated. I spoke with the victims of Hamas, including a former hostage — a Muslim physician — and numerous witnesses to Hamas’ express barbarity against women, children, girls, and infants, brutally violated in life, in utero and in death….A woman who survived the Nova music festival in Re’im witnessed a young woman encircled by Hamas, stripped naked, violated, and manhandled by multiple Hamas terrorists as they gang raped her, repositioning her by the waist and hips, moving from one rapist to the other. Shuddering at the memory, covering her face, with difficulty, the eyewitness continued: One terrorist pulled the woman’s long hair, forcibly arching her neck backwards, fully exposing her naked torso, only to sever both her breasts from her chest with his commando knife. Her entire torso fell backwards, slackened in agony. She may have fainted, though she lived through the mutilation. The disembodied breasts fell to the ground, where terrorists casually played with them…..Hamas arrived with orders to mass rape: Phrasebooks belonging to Hamas found in the Re’im area listed phonetic Hebrew commands in Arabic “Take your clothes off!”; “ Spread your legs!’; “Get down!” — Dr. Qanta Ahmed, physician, senior fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum

Which side ethnically cleansed the other INTENTIONALLY?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/maps/jewishrefmap.jpg

Which side intentionally kills civilians?

https://www.youtube.com/@ApostateProphet/shorts
Again, take their leaders literally and seriously. It wasn’t just rhetoric. It was a plan.

Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas on pay to slay pensions:

memritv.org

And so they do…$300 million/year in recycled EU and US aid money:

https://www.memri.org/reports/statement-president-and-founder-memri-hamas-einsatzgruppen-attack

In signing Oslo, Israel let the PLO into the West Bank and Gaza in 1993, under which Arafat committed to ending terrorism. The PLO got the PA, but Israel got no peace.

When “Palestinians” tell you that religion motivates them, listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfZHJWJJz7M

Where does this motivation come from? Read the Koran’s anti-semitic verses:

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/brutal-meme-reveals-truth-about-radical-islam-and-isis/

Which side denies aid to hungry Gazans while its leaders live in luxury managing a gangster kleptocracy?

https://twitter.com/search?q=economic%20times%20unrwa&src=typed_query

Ismail Haniyeh’s son buys and races Formula One cars while dad rides in this private jet paid for with EU, US and Qatari “aid” money:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/palestinian-mahmoud-abbas-private-jet-israeli-israeli-benjamin-netanyahu-hypocrisy-a8200406.html
https://twitter.com/israelsstory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8GxiIThdGw
Apostate Prophet
Apostate Prophet

Which side uses civilians as human shields, legally a war crime?

http://eternalvigilance.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/hamasvsisrael1.jpg

The UN war crimes statute says that only “undefended” objects have protected status. Hamas leaves none of these “undefended”, which means:

https://twitter.com/israelsstory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8GxiIThdGw&t=3s

Boy scouts used as human shields:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8GxiIThdGw&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8GxiIThdGw&t=3s

The 1948–49 war created 700000+ refugees on each side. Only one is unique in having refugees who inherit that status. Guess which?

Before their failed 1948 “war of extermination”, as Arab League leader Azzam Pasha, called it, about 7000000 Arabs who had fled Palestine at the behest of their leaders expected to return shortly to a Judenrein Palestine.

About an equal number of Jews from Arab states were expelled, expropriated and dispossessed of their property and resettled in Israel. Tik-tokker trigger warning: this is the one question whose answer requires text and tables with lots of numbers:

Arabs’ Koranically mandated dhimmitude apartheid at work: pogroms, expulsions, expropriation.

UNRWA, what’s in a name?

Refugee status spawned by defeat in the Arabs’ genocidal partition rejection war led to the creation of a supposedly temporary UN agency to aid them. Dr. Einat Wilf explains how UNRWA led to endless war:

They immediately got to work to try to undo that through repeated wars and economic boycotts and international condemnations and the refusal of the Arab refugees to ever resettle….The Arab refugees now known as the Palestinians understood that the day they will resettle is the day that the war against the Jewish state is over. So generation after generation, they refused resettlement. They hijacked an organization called UNRWA that was established temporarily to help them resettle….to make it essentially a Palestinian organization. And they were very smart about it. Initially, UNRWA was gonna be called REWA, R-E-W-A, but they insisted to have the letters U-N so that it will have this cache of international legitimacy, but it’s not. It’s a Palestinian organization completely devoted to the idea that Palestinians do not have to come to terms with the existence of the state of Israel. So they’ve created unique conventions of being refugees, generation after generation of inventing something that doesn’t exist for any other refugee group of a right of return to another sovereign state. All unique conventions for the Palestinians intended to convey one thing, that from their perspective, the war of 1948 is an open case and that they can still win it.

East Prussian, Silesian and Sudeten Germans got German citizenship. But not Palestinian Arabs.

UNRWA gave refugee status to any Arab who had lived in mandatory Palestine for….two years minus two weeks before Israel’s creation: since June 1, 1946. The UN aid gravy train led massive numbers of local non-refugee Arabs to claim refugee status. This leads us to the next question: who’s indigenous to the land of Israel?

And where do Gazans come from? Ask the Egyptians in this 1950s propaganda film who were sent there by their post-1948 government that occupied it until the 1967 Six Day War:

Which leads us to the next question about….

Which side is indigenous to the land?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=moses+first+man+with+a+tablet+to+download+data+from+the+cloud&atb=v310-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgflip.com%2F2ja3ky.jpg

What’s built on top is not indigenous. Arab colonization of the land began in 637 AD/CE, more than 1800 years after the first data downloader.

https://twitter.com/israelsstory

You won’t find a “Palestinian” coin like this one.

Even the Romans called the land “Judea” — land of the Jews…until two Jewish rebellions led them to rename it Syria Falastina, after the Greek origin sea people who were the Jews’ historic enemies.

And where did many of the Arabs in mandatory Palestine and Gaza come from? Lebanon, Syria, Transjordan, Iraq and the Egypt that PLO leader Yasser Arafat was born in:

Written by the future founder of the Ziff-Davis publishing firm.

Now let’s follow the demography of the Arab immigration boom produced by Jewish investment and employment opportunities that led to huge population increases that far outstripped those in non-Jewish areas:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 266
From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 266

Winston Churchill noticed this influx:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 248

The one British official who did was assassinated, with his case never solved:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 265

The British fastidiously counted Jewish immigration, but consistently ignored the illegal Arab immigration that exceeded it. This was futile appeasement, Middle East edition, at work to keep the Arabs on side in the coming war against Germany:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 269

The “wider issues” were a futile attempt to blunt German-sponsored revolts in the British mandatory territories of Palestine, close to the crucial Suez Canal, and oil-rich Iraq. The 1936–39 Arab revolt yielded the appeasement-driven 1939 White Paper restricting Jewish immigration to 15000/year to please this Palestinian Arab Hitler and Himmler buddy, Amin Al-Husseini:

Al Husseini meeting Hitler in November 1941 to plan the Arabs’ Middle Eastern genocide franchise
Shall we Shoah together

So who were the “indigenous” Palestinian victims of “settler colonial Zionists”:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 265

With good reason this table puts “refugees” in quotes since nearly 30% were recent migrants who returned from Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan or Iraq:

From Time Immemorial, Joan Peters, 1984, page 257

End result: the 1947–49 war triggered a population exchange in which the Arab states traded the prosperous Jewish communities they expelled and expropriated for Arab migrants who had either followed the jobs offered by the British army that replaced the Ottoman Turks in 1917–18 or during the mandate period’s economic boom produced by Jewish agribusiness and the port of Haifa.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/2c/1f/c32c1fbb9ba0f25e5ad55eb0caf63440.jpg

To follow migration patterns, follow the money….the one time the stereotypes about Jews and money were right.

Which side believes in and practices apartheid?

https://iloveisrael.quora.com/?__filter__=all&__ni__=0&__nsrc__=3&__sncid__=47624633578&__tiids__=135767246#anchor

The Muslim Bedouin soldier above was just killed in Gaza by his co-religionists while defending the state that gave him more democratic rights than any Muslim between Morocco and Pakistan has ever had.

https://twitter.com/israelsstory

Conclusions:

You choose which Arabs to listen to:

  • Israeli Arab political leader Mansour Abbas, the Bedouin who gave his life defending Israel, Sophia Khalifa, or….
  • Yahya Sinwar, Khaled Meshal, Ismail Haniyeh, Fathi Hammad, Ghazi Hamad, Sheikh Yassin and their crew of kleptocratic Koranic literalist believers in a sadistic Islamist death cult proclaiming “we love death and martyrdom more than you love life.”

Your choice, because….

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/washington-rally-pro-israel-isolation-1.7028493
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdZOJW7VAAEppgT.jpg

There are theocratic fanatics on the Israeli side too. But there’s a vast asymmetry between the influence wielded by Jewish biblical literalists and their counterparts who rule with totalitarian force on the Palestinian side. Next we’ll compare the two and the poisonous symbiosis between them.

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